Court of Petty Appeals: 1Ls v. Socrates


1Ls v. Socrates
74 U.Va 8 (2021)


Kulkarni J. delivered the opinion of the Court.


Once again, this Court is faced with a case brought by 1Ls against someone with higher authority than themselves. Today, these affected students have brought suit against the great philosopher himself, Socrates.[1] They allege a claim of intentional infliction of emotional distress and are asking for a remedy in the form of an injunction against use of the Socratic Method within their classrooms. In effect, these students are calling for the end of the “cold call” system as we know it. They take issue with this essential feature of the Law School experience and are suing the creator of the system to gain some measure of compensation for their alleged loss.

            The 1Ls allege that this very system causes their harm. The fear destroys their mental health. The embarrassment faced in the case of a ruined cold call is humiliating, they say. They point to stories of professors telling students to leave the class if they get the question wrong. They argue that the reputational hit taken by someone who messes up is career-ending. They go so far as to say that their stress-induced mistake will prevent them from getting the recommendation letter of their choice for a clerkship. In sum, these students are alleging a lot of harm after being in law school for seven weeks.

            Before addressing these arguments and issuing a ruling, it is important to note some background. As is often the case in such contentious issues, I am sure that avid observers of the Court take clear notice of who is writing the opinion, what their past decisions on such issues have been, and adjust their expectations accordingly. For many such observers, they are astonished that I am writing the majority opinion in this case. Perhaps any 1L worth their salt who did the research and understood my past position on such matters may even be feeling hope at this very moment. I regret to inform you that such hope, like all hope in law school, is misplaced. This court has a categorical rule.  It is simple. 1Ls always lose.[2] In past cases, I have argued against such a rule. Today, I do something that judges rarely do: admit my mistake.

            My associate, the Chief Justice, often pointed out that I was biased, and I am here to admit that this criticism was appropriate.[3] I was a member of the very group that was repeatedly suing for expanded rights. We, on this Court, should be paragons of truth, justice, and the Law School way. It is incorrect for me to adjust my opinions based upon my status. I only hope that my newest colleague, Associate Justice Morse, may one day be able to see his own error in this matter.

            With all of that out of the way, it is now time to address the merits of the case: absolutely nothing. The 1Ls of the Class of 2024 have chosen a terrible case substantively to combat the lack of rights that they have. They offer stories and rumors to substantiate their claims of emotional harm. “The truth will set you free” is a common expression. Well here, the truth is simple. These students fail to understand the importance of the Socratic Method. These students will not do their readings unless forced.[4] Their professors are using this tool to impose the habit of reading upon them. More than the benefit itself, the loss is minimal. The truth is that amici, in the form of 2Ls and 3Ls,  remind us that no one in their classes remember any cold calls of their classmates. Thus, any of the cited “scary stories” the 1Ls provide to aid their case are undermined by this similarly circumstantial evidence.

            These 1Ls have no standing to sue: they are always guaranteed to lose. Yet, they still filed this action, which can only be called frivolous. There is no true harm here other than a little discomfort to these students. The decision we are faced with, then, is no decision at all. These 1Ls must continue to “suffer” under the yoke of the Socratic method. Furthermore, the students have sued the wrong person; they should have sued their professors instead. Also, you can’t sue a dead person.[5] Here, the wrong group of people is suing the wrong person. It leads to a very clear conclusion.

 

Injunction denied.

 

Morse, J., dissenting.


 “I know that I know nothing[6].” Arguably Socrates’ most honest utterance, this statement is often interpreted as Socrates’ humbly deferential response to the Oracle of Delphi calling him the wisest man living. A more reasonable reading of this statement would be its plain meaning: Socrates had no earthly idea what he was doing. Recognizing that the reasonable response to someone who admits to total cluelessness is awkward silence followed by a polite change of subject, the 1L class of the Law School has brought suit against the obsequious employment of the “Socratic Method” in their legal education. I dissent from the majority’s errant view in this case and applaud the 1Ls for seeking to abandon this pedagogical god who has pointed out his own feet of clay. I concur with the majority’s admission that they have made a mistake. I dissent on all else.

            One would be forgiven for having difficulty in following the logic of the majority’s opinion, but no one should be surprised that the defense of such an untenable and intentionally obfuscatory teaching method requires Simone Biles-level mental gymnastics. I will endeavor to clarify the tortured logic put forward by this Court, in the hopes that the shortcomings of the status quo will pave the way for future, more enlightened minds.

            The majority’s reasoning (such as it is) appears to proceed along three prongs. First, that 1Ls have insufficient experience with which to appropriately evaluate the efficacy of the Socratic method. Second, that ruling in the 1Ls’ favor would violate a supposed categorical rule barring 1Ls from any victory. Third, that the 1Ls fail to grasp the true purpose and ultimate benefit supposedly conferred by the Socratic method. Finally, my esteemed colleague Associate Justice Kulkarni seems to have some quibbles about “standing” and “suing the right party.” I must admit that these objections sound reasonable but unfortunately, these concepts haven’t been brought up yet in my free-for-all education under the Socratic method. As such, I will confine myself to the first three semi-substantive points.

            The first point begs the question – at what point will 1Ls have enough experience to decide for themselves that they can trust their own faculties when they conclude a painful and confusing experience is best avoided? Assume for example, that each day, as I wait for the bus, a man walks up and slaps me in the face with a day-old slice of deli ham. How many ham-slaps do I need to tolerate before Justice Kulkarni is satisfied that I really know that I don’t want to be slapped in the face with old ham? Perhaps just more than seven weeks of ham-slapping? The truth is, the harms alleged by the plaintiffs are ones that any reasonable person would want to avoid – and some might even reasonably prefer a slap in the face from a lukewarm slice of ham than being subject to the reign of terror which is a Friday morning 8:30am cold call in Criminal Law.[7]

            The majority then argues that no matter what the facts or common sense should imply, Plaintiffs lose because “1Ls always lose.” I would like to applaud Justice Kulkarni from the sheer chutzpah displayed in borrowing a page from classic 1950’s parenting methods, and basically telling 1Ls to shut up “because I say so.” Okay, Dad. Perhaps all us 1Ls should just go grab the collective 2L and 3Ls another beer from the cooler and be just grateful to be here.

            Lastly, the majority’s argument that “1Ls fail to understand the importance of the Socratic method” is so faulty and forced that it gives me flashbacks of the sadness and mild embarrassment of listening to any of Kanye’s last three albums.[8] The argument fails in two respects: 1) it assumes that 1Ls are not taking into account the relative value of an otherwise painful teaching method and 2) it ignores the other reasons 1Ls would have to complete assigned reading. The second point is particularly interesting, since there are so many obvious reasons that 1Ls would not want to waste their time by going to law school without doing any readings (some might even say hundreds of thousands of reasons).[9]

            And this bring us to the crux of the plaintiff’s argument: that students, professors, and the Law School community as a whole have precious little time and the Socratic method has been shown by research[10] to be an inferior method of teaching (not to mention yes, super stressful) and should thus be abandoned for everyone’s sake. The majority opinion argues that this Court should be a paragon of truth, justice, and the Law School way. It is self-evident that a prerequisite for these conditions is that logic exists—and logic demands that when you can’t come up with any good reasons for torturing 1Ls other than the intellectual equivalent of a half-hearted shrug, then you should probably abandon that torture pedagogy.

---

omk6cg@virginia.edu
cpg9jy@virginia.edu


[1] Ed: pronounced səʊkreɪts for all of you uncultured philistines

[2] 1L Gunners v. Everyone Else, 324 U.Va 22 (2019).

[3] Chief Justice here, just wanted to say, “I told you so.”

[4] Evidence of that comes from the fact that 2Ls and 3Ls refuse to do their readings.

[5] I think this is true but honestly, this is a fake court and I can just make that the rule now. So I guess we are creating a new categorical rule if it doesn’t exist: you can’t sue dead people.

[6] As quoted in Plato’s account of Socrates’ teachings. Not a great look.

[7] Just an example. Definitely no need to read into this.

[8] To save you the Google, those would be Ye, Jesus is King, Donda. I just mean, woof.

[9] https://www.law.virginia.edu/financialaid/annual-cost-attendance-budget.

[10] This one you are going to have to Google. But I swear it's probably true.

Hot Bench: Kiera Callahan '22


Kiera Callahan ‘22, President of UVA Law’s Advocates for Disability Rights

Kiera Callahan ‘22, President of UVA Law’s Advocates for Disability Rights

Hi Kiera! Welcome to the Hot Bench. To start off—where are you from?

I grew up all over the U.S., so I don’t have a specific hometown! I was born in Wisconsin, and my family spent time in Pennsylvania. But I primarily grew up in Illinois, and then I went to Southern California where I did later schooling and went to college.

What are you involved in at UVA Law?

I’m President for Advocates for Disability Rights—the only student organization for disability rights at UVA Law. Our mission is advocacy and raising awareness around disability. It affects our life and can create limitations, but our goals are still achievable. I am also a fellow with the Law and Public Service Program, and a mentor for PILA.

What made you start thinking about law school, and what drove you to UVA in particular?

When I was 18, I got sick out of nowhere and had a growing list of symptoms. I began a long journey of trying to figure out what was wrong with me. I was sick for around two years, getting worse. I had to drop out of college. I was pretty confident that I had a brain tumor that was creating a condition called Cushing’s Disease. I had several doctors who confirmed my suspicions, but when we went to bigger institutions for treatment and surgery, no one believed me. I was told I was depressed, hysterical—the usual things said to women with health issues. This was a hard 180 in perspective from when I previously had confidence in the medical system.

I found a nearby surgeon who immediately recognized the signs and symptoms. He was UVA trained. I went through a series of brain surgeries, and the last one was successful. I lost most of my pituitary gland, which controls all hormone functions in your body. It changed my whole life trajectory. Before, I was thinking about being an actor and going to Los Angeles or NYC. After surgery, I thought I wanted to do something in the medical field because other people shouldn't have to undergo what I went through. When you have a malicious tumor, you shouldn’t have to fight to get treatment over something that causes so much harm.

I went back to college and took different classes to figure out my route. I considered med school or an M.P.H. In undergrad, I majored in medical anthropology. After my first year at University of California-Irvine, I had an “aha” moment that law school would be a good fit. I was watching a legal procedural and thought that maybe law school would be where I could make the impact I wanted to. There were no lawyers in my family, but my parents were supportive and thought I’d make a good lawyer.

I decided to prepare for the LSAT and within eight months I got into UVA. It was my first choice because of my surgeon. With more research, I found out UVA Law was unique as a top ten school with an emphasis on student wellbeing and collegiality. I liked that it was in a small town with nearby medical systems, unlike some other top law schools.

Is there a type of law you’d like to practice after Law School?

Being in public service, I’m not totally sure yet. I made the recent decision to get an M.P.H after Law School. I would like to go into health law ideally. I’ve done stuff in disability law which was interesting, but health law is where my heart lies, especially incorporating my undergrad connections and medical anthropology background. I’ve also thought about teaching. I want to see where life takes me. My family has a saying that goes “Man prepares and God laughs.” But, right now, I feel this is the direction I’m being led.

I love your Instagram account (@thewillowrunlife)!. Can you tell me a little more about it?

I started Insta at the beginning of my recovery journey after surgery. I wanted to raise awareness about Cushing’s because most people don’t know about it. It’s common in the veterinary world, but not for humans. What doctors know is outdated, which is how I got stuck in the outdated system and idea of women’s health. One of the big symptoms of Cushing’s is dramatic, quick weight gain, so I documented returning to feeling like myself again. I traced my recovery via my interests in things like makeup and fashion and showcased that in my account.

After getting into UVA, I found that the account no longer spoke to my interests. I touched upon my chronic illness but hadn’t talked about it with full force or opened up the floor to talk about disability, identity, faith, positivity, and recognizing grief as your body changes. I realized I wanted to change direction. I know there’s not a lot of people in the legal field with chronic disability and recovering from Cushing’s specifically. Instagram allowed me to express what I was going through and gave me opportunities to post and discuss, especially with the stories feature. I just wanted to talk about being a lawyer with chronic illness.

My first year of Law School, I got sick with more conditions, which further changed my trajectory. It’s believed I have a genetic disease that was triggered with Cushing’s recovery. During 1L year, my symptoms changed dramatically, which forced me into the disability space. Suddenly I wasn’t dealing with my symptoms from brain surgery but also other new symptoms. I leaned into talking about disability more than in the past.

I understand you also post vlogs on YouTube! How did you start doing that?

At first, I didn’t want to do YouTube because of fear of unkind comments. Then during 1L, I went to the Mayo Clinic to figure out my other symptoms, and my family encouraged me to document my journey there. At that point, I created my YouTube account. I hadn’t been able to find on YouTube someone who was a lawyer with chronic illness. My approach to success on these platforms is finding gaps and providing content for these people.

I applied for my service dog Bonnie at the beginning of Law School. The waitlist for service dogs in VA is about one to two years. I waited about 1.5 years and got her in October 2020. It was a big change to adapt to having a service animal and bonding as a team, and I stepped off a bit from YouTube engagement. People with chronic illness live two lives -- professional and personal. One can encroach on the other, so it’s always a balance between the two. Right now, I’m finding my balance. After getting more diagnoses, I’d like to talk on Youtube about having a service animal, finishing law school, and jobs for after. 

Lightning Round!

Favorite place to eat in Cville? Doma. 

Favorite Movie or TV Show? I love period pieces, like Sandition on Masterpiece, Pride and Prejudice, and Northanger Abbey. I also love book adaptions, like Shadow and Bone. I love Bones, Castle, anything murder mystery. For movies, anything Marvel. I’m very much a nerd. I love Star Wars and action movies. 

Favorite word? I really like “effervescent.” I had a close friend in high school who was blind, and I really admired them. That friend said I was effervescent. It was one of the most kind compliments I’ve received. 

Favorite law school course? I really loved Con Law. Other than that, probably bioethics. We studied different areas and collaborated with the M.P.H. school, so right up my alley. I love any class with Professors Riley and Shepherd.

 

Tweedledee and Tweedledum: Short Shorts


Phil Tonseth ‘23
Editor-in-Chief


Skies Out, Thighs Out


If you’ve got it, flaunt it. For all of those peeps lucky enough to know me, or be on my close friends list on Insta, you know I am a huge fan of leg day. Both because of that, and due to everything coming back into fashion, I consistently wear short shorts. I’m not talking shorts that tickle the top of your kneecaps. I mean short shorts. This is one time where 5 inches[1] is something to be proud of.

            This article is supposed to convince you of why my side of this argument is right. I don’t think I really need to try that hard to do so. Did Michael Jordan wear short shorts when he became the greatest basketball player of all time? You bet. Did your dad rock the short shorts both to spit game at the beach and then go home and mow the lawn after? You’re alive and reading this now, aren’t you? Do I spend way too much time doing absolutely vain leg exercises in the hopes that someone compliments my tree trunks? Jury is still out on that one.

            If that hasn’t convinced you to update your wardrobe, let me try my last trick. Legs are the new abs. I prefer to call this past summer ‘Thigh Guy Summer,’ not ‘Hot Vax Summer.’ . After so long of being inside due to COVID, not everyone has that same tight tummy we may have rocked back in 2019. But you bet men are excited to show off all of that work they did from home. Don’t take it from me, but The Guardian even said that showing off the thighs shows “the qualities of a soft lad. They are sporty, useful, athletic, deeply revealing, lightly erogenous, [and] ultimately unthreatening.”[2] Plus, strong legs generally means a nicer backside. Don’t neglect leg day boys, build that bum and show the world that you’re a “soft lad.”

 

Mason Pazhwak ‘23
Events Editor


In Defense of the KneeLength, or Just Above the Knee-Length, at the Very Shortest, Shorts 


It seemed to me, when I was younger, that the debate between shorts and short shorts had been resolved in conventional men’s fashion. Just like liberal democracy smashed authoritarian communism, so too had shorts falling to at least right above the knee[3] left short shorts of any lesser inseams consigned to the dustbin of history. You can imagine the alarm I felt when, as an undergrad, I first saw packs of fraternity members walking around in blazers, sunglasses, Sperrys, and….Chubbies. From what deranged place had these men, with their sickeningly colored, pastel assortment of short shorts that so blatantly exposed their quadriceps for all the world to see, come from?  Little did I know, this was only observing a harbinger of things to come, and in subsequent years the short shorts not only grew more pervasive, but the inseams slowly creeped up farther and farther. Now, Gen Z, with their vapes, TikTok, and broccoli-style haircuts, seem to have deigned to adopt a trend set by a very misguided set of Millennials, and embraced the return of the male short shorts. It is just another layer of instability in deeply uncertain times, but all us knee-lengthers can do is just get up, look at the day’s weather, step into our trusty shorts, and steel ourselves for another day of confronting hairy thighs at each turn.

Why my obstinate, seemingly irrational dissent from this trend you might ask? Some might attack me and say I am just not confident in my own thighs, attempting to thigh-shame me out of the argument. Others might dismiss me as an errant anachronism unable to keep up with the times, a hopelessly unfashionable Luddite who missed the memo that the mantra of “less is more” now pervades all parts of our lives.  Even others might call me out on utilitarian grounds, claiming that I am failing to recognize the superiority of short shorts as objectively cooler clothing in a warming world. To all of them I could simply retort that short shorts just aren’t cool, please leave me and my thighs alone thank-you-very-much. But I want to engage more deeply than that. The erosion of short length in our society is, at least in my mind, part of a wider erosion of the virtue of modesty. When I step into my knee-length to just above the knee shorts, I am saying “Hey, of course there is more to see, but you know what, I don’t need to show it.” There is a humble, quiet confidence to the wearers of knee length shorts, a comfort with not needing to be at the center of attention, a joy at the thigh covered against the harsh glare of the relentless sun. In an era where extremes seem to be growing and society vacillates between them amidst the turbulence, the knee to just above knee length short wearer is a bastion of stability, a rock amidst the raging storm, the moderate that ensures we all get through to calmer days. Stay strong, fellow long shorts wearers.

---

pjt5hm@virginia.edu
mwp8kk@virginia.edu


[1] Read “inseam”, and keep your dirty mind out of this.

[2] https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2021/jun/20/thigh-society-why-mens-shorts-are-getting-shorter

[3] There was a time, sometime in the mid to late 2000s, when even shorts falling to right above the knee might have been a source of derision and mockery, or at least a healthy dose of skepticism, but even I have evolved enough to find them acceptable to wear. I should also note that perhaps the trend of long shorts also got out of hand at some points, but that is another argument for another day.

Court of Petty Appeals: Students v. Student Records Office


Students v. Student Records Office
74 U.Va 7 (2021)

Smith, J. delivered the opinion of the Court.

This case stands for one proposition: we do not like to read. Plaintiffs, defendants, and amici expect too much if they want us to actually peruse their lengthy briefs. Fortunately, a core principle of our jurisprudence decides this case.

I

            Last year, due to the COVID pandemic, the law school decided to plan a twenty-minute cushion between classes, instead of the previous ten-minute cushion. In theory, the twenty-minute cushion would allow law students from one class to leave before students from the other class showed up, preventing clogged aisles and hallways. In part to allow for the twenty-minute cushion, the law school’s Student Records Office planned course sessions that were only seventy minutes long. In past years, classes were generally eighty minutes long, and they have returned to that length this year.

Plaintiffs strongly object to that extra ten minutes of class. The students, a mix of 2Ls and 3Ls, challenged it on a host of grounds. Student Records responded with a motion to dismiss. The lower court converted it to a motion for summary judgment because Student Records included affidavits asserting that the shorter classes “were no longer necessary,” and that the students are “just a bunch of lazy bums.” The students responded with a cross-motion for summary judgment. The court also allowed a few overzealous 1Ls and professors who feared losing extra class time to intervene. In the end, the court granted judgment for Student Records on all plaintiffs’ claims. The students appealed.

II

The Table of Contents of the students’ brief starts with the claim that the change was “arbitrary,” “capricious,” and “an abuse of discretion” under the Administrative Procedure Act.[1] The students seem to be correct at first glance. The privilege of acting arbitrarily and capriciously belongs exclusively to this Court. And like the defendants in a recent Supreme Court case, Student Records did not consider students’ reliance interests in keeping an existing policy—in this case, the seventy-minute class length.[2] Unfortunately, Professor Aditya Bamzai wrote a fifty-four-page amicus brief challenging our jurisdiction over this claim, and we don’t like to read. So we refrain from deciding the case on administrative law grounds.

The students also point to last year as course-of-performance evidence that Student Records has waived its right to force students to endure that extra ten agonizing minutes of class. [3] This argument also seems on-point. Regrettably, at oral argument counsel for the defendant responded to this argument with the (magic?) words “boilerplate, boilerplate, boilerplate,” and wheeled several boxes of paper over to our Bench. We are not sure what is in any of the boxes, but we sure don’t want to find out, so we will pass on that argument too.

The students fall back on a Fourteenth Amendment Due Process claim. They allege that the increased class time violates their right to “liberty.” The obvious and crushing rejoinder is that the plaintiffs are LAW STUDENTS. The plaintiffs have already mortgaged their future, forfeited their happiness, sold their souls, and pledged their liberty in exchange for the promise of mountains and mountains of cold hard cash. If plaintiffs feel “trapped” or “imprisoned,” it is because they are. Student Records is right to point out that we generally give prison officials broad discretion,[4] though we need not hold that law students are prisoners to decide that they have lost any liberty interest in not attending class.

III

As a last resort, the students ask us to create a new categorical rule. Pointing to our “founding doctrine” that “1Ls always lose,”[5] and last week’s (wholly unnecessary) holding that “journals also always lose,”[6] the students want us to declare that Student Records always loses. This is totally pointless, because the first of our categorical rules already decides this case quite neatly. A few 1Ls have intervened in support of longer classes; 1Ls always lose; therefore, the longer classes must go. We suggest that 1Ls think twice before intervening in future cases.

IV

The intervening 1Ls and professors argue that today’s outcome must be prevented lest Student Records compensate by taking away fall break or spring break. Similarly, Student Records claims that it must be permitted to make up the time by cutting out breaks. However, this Court has already ruled that “[a] mid-semester break is absolutely necessary.”[7] Student Records is hereby ORDERED to cut all eighty-minute classes down to seventy minutes while leaving fall and spring break intact.

 

REVERSED.

 

Tonseth., C.J. dissenting because I’m a 3L.

 

            Show me a 3L that regularly goes to class, and I’ll show you a liar.[8] This base fact, strongly supported by my own personal penchant for spending class time at the golf course or pool, is enough to eliminate standing for most of the classes present. However, as Associate Justice Smith points out, 1Ls always lose too.[9] I’m pretty conflicted, as I’m also fully in support of a categorical rule that Student Records should be included under the umbrella of “always losing”. Therefore, as I think both sides to this case have weak arguments, I would dismiss this complaint for failing to satisfy the case and controversy requirement.

            Are 70-minute classes overall better than their 80-minute counterparts? Maybe. It’s 10 more minutes for me to spend online shopping for another crop top or pit vipers, but also another 10 minutes that I can’t have a sip of water. Plus, it’s whimsical to believe that my attention span lasts past the review each professor gives at the beginning of class.[10] What am I really arguing for here? The 10 minutes makes no difference. The funny thing about the liberty argument that Justice Smith forgets is that law students can just leave class when there’s 10 minutes left! Don’t want to hear rambling hypotheticals? Bounce. Ready to start happy hour 7 hours early, after your Monday morning PR class? Come find me and let me join. Just want to go home and have another existential crisis? Be our guest. Law school is what you make of it, and I’ve spent a lot of it learning by the pool and on the golf course. Don’t let the man keep you down. Viva la liberty.

---

js3hp@virginia.edu
pjt5hm@virginia.edu



[1] 5 U.S.C. § 706(2)(A).

[2] See Dep’t Homeland Sec. v. Regents Univ. Cal., 410 S. Ct. 1891 (2020).

[3] See UCC § 1-303.

[4] See, e.g., Thornburgh v. Abbott, 490 U.S. 401, 413 (1989).

[5] See, e.g., Snowman v. Student Administration, 73 U.Va. 15 (2021) (Tonseth, J., concurring in part and dissenting in part).

[6] Jilted Students v. Journals, 74 U.Va. 6 (2021)

[7] Law Students for Fall Break v. The Law School, 73 U.Va. 7 (2020).

[8] Look, it’s me.

[9] Supra nt. 5. Don’t ask me if I did that citation right, I already said journals lose too so their opinions and comments aren’t valid on the Court.

[10] Shoutout Professor Coughlin, I appreciate you.

Hot Bench: Amanda "Mandy" Marie Brock


Amanda "Mandy" Marie Brock, offers this advice to first-year students, "believe in yourself and don't ever give up!"This reporter would add "buy more coffee (preferably from Mandy)!"

Amanda "Mandy" Marie Brock, offers this advice to first-year students, "believe in yourself and don't ever give up!"This reporter would add "buy more coffee (preferably from Mandy)!"

Interviewed by Nikolai Morse ‘24

Hello, Mandy! Thank you for taking the time to sit down with us. Could you start off by telling us a little bit about yourself?

I am from Orange County originally, but grew up in Charlottesville after moving here when I was 13. I’ve been at UVA Law for 15 years now.

Everyone calls you Mandy–what’s your full name?

Amanda Marie Brock.

That’s a lovely name–family name?

Yes, my cousin picked it.

I am always amazed at how many people’s names you seem to know. How do you remember them all?

I just try to focus on the unique things about people, and if they have unique names it makes it easier.

Another thing I love about coming to grab coffee from you, is that you always have excellent music playing. Who are some of your favorite artists?

I like the classics. Aretha Franklin, Marvin Gaye, Al Green, and music like that. I don’t like a lot of new music.

Any favorite spots or recommendations in Charlottesville?

Well, I’m pretty busy with work and family so I don’t go out to eat a lot, but there is a lot to do in Charlottesville especially with all of the nature in the area. I love Mel’s Café.

What do you do for fun? You work hard and deserve a break!

I love to travel. We take a lot of trips to North Carolina and other weekend trips around the region.

And how do you like Charlottesville and UVA?

Oh yes, I love it. The students and people I work with are wonderful and make me so happy.

I think every student feels that way about you. You’re a staple of this school and actually, I had heard of you even before my first day. Do you have any favorite memories of your time here at the Law School?

I do. I remember this one year, there was this student who was in her first year. I would see her around and had gotten to know her. Around finals time, she actually came to me and broke down. I talked with her and she told me that she didn’t think she could do it, and wanted to drop out. I told her she had made it here and could do it. Years later when she had graduated and was a lawyer, she came back to the Law School and said maybe I didn’t remember her, but that I was the reason she stayed in law school. I said I remembered her, and I still do. That has always meant so much to me and stayed with me.

That’s incredible. Thank you for sharing that story. Alright, let’s do a lightning round. Ready?

Alright!

Favorite color?

Blue.

Favorite food or dessert?

I love chocolate cake. We used to have some in the café here!

Favorite holiday?

Thanksgiving. It isn’t stressful, and it’s so nice to be with all my family.

Zodiac sign?

Gemini.

Favorite movies?

The Halloween movies. The original ones.

The originals are great. Are you a big horror movie fan?

Yes, I am. I would always watch them with my mother growing up.

Thanks so much, Mandy. This has been terrific.

Of course. Thank you and I will see you around!

Barristers United Match Report: Sept. 26


Jack Brown ‘23
Staff Editor

 

A perfect late September day served as the ideal backdrop for a top-of-the-table Sunday league clash as Barristers United tied 1-1 against a fearsome squad only known as “UNU.” While a tie is not a loss, it is the first time in almost a year that the Barristers squad has not walked away from a game the clear winners, a sign of the heightened competition the team finds itself in.

This match was a story of determination, desire, and disregard on the part of the referee towards punishing dangerous conduct. Late tackles, aggressive pushes, and accusations of officiating the game drunk were all fair game as Sunday league soccer continues to offend norms of common sporting decency. Still, even with a shorter bench than normal, the Barristers held strong and kept calm to extend the team’s unbeaten run.

An unsung hero who has helped keep this dream alive is converted keeper Aziz Rashidzada, who was called on more than ever before to save several near goals. Although he shifted into the role out of necessity, he has quickly blossomed into a premiere shot stopper.

Another fan favorite who has thrived this season is new dog owner Daniel Choi, who created several good chances that the team just couldn’t capitalize on and is always a threat playing either centrally or out wide.

A final shoutout has to go to the newly-signed Sopranos fan, Zach Pierce, who was responsible both for the only goal scored by Barristers on Sunday, and the questionable red card[1] that forced the team to dig deep to hold on for the last twenty-five minutes.

With the team almost halfway through the regular season, pundits and fans alike are confident that this team will be able to continue to excel in this new league. While results have started to tighten up compared to the 4-0 win that opened the season, the team has exceptional potential to grow. Between the influx of untapped 1L talent, the addition of dogs to the sidelines, and the possibility of a return by the perpetually controversial Doyle Tuvesson, this team’s season is just getting started.

---

jwb4bb@virginia.edu


[1] Let the record show the other team also believed that when the whistle was blown, that their player was going to get sent off, and that the team would be willing to testify under oath that Zach was not the aggressor

Court of Petty Appeals: Jilted Students v. Journals


Jilted Students v. Journals
74 U.Va 6 (2021)

Tonseth, J. delivered the opinion of the Court.

 

TL:DR

            I’m not going to lie to you, today’s legal analysis is groundbreaking for a few reasons. First, I attempt to learn, reason through, and apply the regulatory takings doctrine, much to the chagrin of my Property professor.[1] Second, I acknowledge that student journals actually possess some useful qualities. But, most importantly, this Court today establishes a categorical rule, as concrete as our holding in 1L Gunners v. Everyone Else, 324 U.Va 22 (2019)[2] that journals also always lose. They cannot pass “Go,” cannot collect $200, and will never earn the “get out of jail free” card.

Background

            So what had happened was, I received a text from a friend. This unnamed friend wished to submit a cert petition with this Court for a class of jilted students. Initially, the Court was inclined to deny this cert petition, both due to the fact that one case a week is a lot of work for 3Ls to write an opinion on, but also because the concerned class of jilted students was composed of 3Ls and obnoxiously smart law students. These students already get “prestigious” clerkships, higher bonuses to big name firms, and specially ordered hats for graduation solely due to how much the administration blows smoke up their you-know-whats. And yet, here we are. What case could be so pressing as to change this esteemed Court’s mind, you ask? Journals potentially violating the Takings Clause. By that, I mean journals, and especially the ‘prestigious’ Virginia Law Review, devaluing student submissions to a level that blatantly violates the Constitutional text of our dearly beloved Fifth Amendment.[3] While this Court values working smarter, not harder, the allure of being published for high quality work and the reward for the intellectual stimulation that these student pieces add to the field is something this Court needs to protect. Let’s get down to business, to defeat the Huns/Journals.

Pseudo-Analysis

            As the judicial offspring of Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas, with a sprinkling of RBG’s pizzazz, let me do you an educate on the Takings Clause. Although UVA Law is a separately licensed entity from Main Grounds, and thus private, that doesn’t fit with how I plan to rule in this case, so we’re going to ignore that fact. Therefore, UVA Law, through its affiliation with the public university that is UVA, is a public government entity and must act under the color and guidance of the U.S. Constitution. Since the Law School finances and supports its “illustrious” journals, it also applies to them.

            What is the Taking’s Clause, you may ask? Apparently, it states that the government is required to pay compensation for the taking of property from its citizens. The Supreme Court has generally interpreted this clause in one of two ways: first, the dynamic changing of society and its associated property means the value and interests of property are to evolve as we do; second, property in itself is sacrosanct and should be immune from government interference.  As the unfailing textualist/originalist on this Court, I must first analyze the actual Takings Clause to see what it means. SURPRISE! There is no additional information provided in the Fifth Amendment, meaning I can make up whatever textual original argument that supports my end goal![4] However, and I am aggrieved in saying this, this Court will not support nor advance the judicial Takings Doctrine, as an overactive Court is not the proper role we are to assume.

            What does all of this mean for the present case? Well, as you already know, the journals and ‘vaunted’ VLR lose. But how do we traverse Rainbow Road to get there? Through the transitive property, VLR is a government entity. Therefore the Takings Clause applies with full force. Because of this, VLR has to compensate those students who submit their labors of love[5] in a just manner, or they violate the Constitution they claim to so dearly love. This inference chain is supported both by the fact that this Court will not advance a judicial Takings Doctrine, combined with the fact that I believe in the other Court’s (read SCOTUS) analysis of the dynamic doctrine of property. In earlier years, students may have been willing to write off any illegitimate takings by journals simply because the student was “happy to be here.” Hogwash. Today’s students know their worth and they want credit where it is due. Solely because I want to one day attend oral arguments in my aforementioned friend’s private box at SCOTUS, I’m agreeing with him and on his side.

Ruling

            The dissent is quick to point out that this case should be moot, as VLR rejected all of the submissions by the class of Jilted Students before us. Sounds pretty elitist, but what else would you expect from an actual member of VLR? Whether the students have or will be published isn’t a material fact in this case. The fact that VLR solicited contributions, accepted the submissions, and could only send a rejection email with poorly concocted excuses for why the piece didn’t meet their “arbitrary” criteria is enough to decide this case on its face. And yet, I don’t even have to resort to my standard pettiness to do so, as today’s case is a clear and violative taking. What’s the remedy? TBD. I think my buddy owes me a few pitchers at the next Bar Review since I don’t have enough influence to make VLR publish the piece in question, but the next best option is to start publishing student notes in the Law Weekly. Talk about exciting your readers.

 

Birch J., concurring.

 

I fully agree with the precedent established by my colleague that “journals also always lose,” but my concurrence in this case comes from a different understanding of a governmental entity. Echoing the Chief Justice’s apologies to our Property professor, I would also like to extend this court’s apologies to our Constitutional Law professor.[6] Before beginning my opinion, this Justice notes personal concerns about violation of child labor laws for a few of the K-JDs that make up membership of the Jilted Students class.

Requiring and absconding with labor and energy from students who don’t know any better, Journals represent everything wrong with an administrative body taking private property and rights without just compensation.

While my holding stems from the Takings Clause as well, the Chief Justice made several leaps to establish a governmental relationship when none of them were necessary. It is a clear and obvious fact to anyone that has ever attempted to join a selective group within the Law School that VLR is a governmental body, albeit, a shadowy one. The only reason the organization does not fully come into the light is to allow the actual Law School administration the ability to turn a blind eye to the actions of this rogue organization. While I would never indulge them with comparisons to Kanye’s former shadow government, the cold, self-interested hand of VLR can be felt by anyone not listed on the tacked-up sheet of paper across from SRO.

Now you may ask the question, “If VLR is not a United States governmental entity, why would they have to respect the Constitution?” That is an apt legal query, but it misses the larger game of chess the public side of the journal must face. If it is not to be beholden to the Constitution, one of the most prestigious journals in the country would have to outright claim in this petty court that “The Constitution of the United States does not matter to us.” If this happens, I will readily reverse my ruling and happily expel our sovereign-citizen of an uncle from this university.

Should you think this Justice has gone off a deep-end and looks a lot like Charlie Day trying to find Pepe Silvia, remember that I go senior status come the end of May.[7] Journals also always lose. As the primary culprit and self-assessed “best journal” at the Law School, VLR proves to be the “best defendant” for constitutional grievances raised by students. Through the taking of hope, time, energy, effort, and the will to live from its members, VLR must provide some form of just compensation.[8]

 

Peterson J., dissenting.

 

While I would tell you my allegiances lay solely with the Law Weekly, I am sure to now be deemed a turncoat despite my disproportionate time spent writing articles as opposed to notes.

Accordingly, it is not changed allegiances that drive this dissent. It is logic and a devotion to the Constitution, a devotion which the esteemed Justice Birch calls into question. First, while property rights are certainly some of the most important protected by the Constitution, freedom of contract is another essential constitutional principle on which journals generally, but certainly VLR with its multitude of cite checks, are founded upon. Jilted Students, sorry, not sorry. Take what you want but eat what you take—don’t come complaining to the Court when two sophisticated parties make a contract and you don’t read all of the terms.

Further, and finally, VLR is decidedly not a governmental entity. As my clearly median-or-below colleagues point out, yet seem to not appreciate, the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment applies only to governmental entities. If there is one thing I learned in my VLR orientation,[9] it is that VLR is an independent foundation, a separate entity from UVA, and therefore exempt from any attack through the Takings Clause.

Due to the above, I pedantically dissent.

---

pjt5hm@virginia.edu
sfb9yu@virginia.edu
jtp4bw@virginia.edu



[1] Professor Nicoletti, if you’re reading this, I’m going to apologize before I get any further. Please let me into your class next semester <3.

[2] Ergo, 1Ls always lose.

[3] I was today years old when I learned the Fifth Amendment covered more things than just “pleading the Fifth”. Crim investigations is going really well, thank you for asking.

[4] And that’s how originalists justify their positions. You’re welcome 1Ls, I just passed ConLaw for you.

[5] I.e., the intellectual property of their thoughts, and the physical property of the paper they pay for when they submit their notes.

[6] Professor Nachbar, thank you for your patience, and I blame Phil.

[7] Dean Goluboff and whoever is the EIC of Virginia Law Review at the time, willing.

[8] This compensation must be more than “exposure and connections” that every Instagram baddie swears will help a starving artist more than money.

[9] Besides having my love of free food reaffirmed.

Hot Bench: Marc Kilani '22


Marc Kilani ‘22

Marc Kilani ‘22

Interviewed by Will McDermott ‘22

Where are you from?

Well, that’s always been a hard question to answer, but at this point in my life I claim that I’m from New York City. I was born and raised in NYC until I was 9, when my parents divorced, and then moved to Arkansas with my mom. I always spent summers and holidays in NYC with my dad, and then I finally moved back for grad school, so all in all, I’ve spent the biggest chunk of my life in the City, and I’ll be headed back next year.

 

When did you start thinking about law school?

Ha, that’s a long story. When I first started undergrad (back in the Stone Age), I was actually very interested in law, politics, and international relations and planned to have some kind of career in that area. However, in the course of studying the underlying theories, I became super fascinated with philosophy and ended up feeling the need to go all the way down the rabbit hole. I went to grad school for philosophy and ended up working as a professor for 8 years. At some point in there, I sort of exhausted my interest in abstract theoretical questions and found myself returning to more practical concerns like economics and politics (and maybe a better wage than a philosophy professor). So law school just seemed like a natural path for me.

 

What student orgs have you been involved with at UVA Law?

When I got here, I didn’t know the first thing about business, finance, or economics, but I knew I wanted to learn these things, so I leaned in pretty hard to Rivanna Investments. I was really intimidated coming in, knowing that many of my colleagues would be business or finance majors, but Rivanna was so welcoming and really made me feel like I could pick up the concepts and language I needed. I’m now the Chief Investment Officer and I’m thrilled to see the huge 1L interest in Rivanna, and very proud of the 2L leadership team that weathered investment club Zoom meetings during COVID.

As a 2L, I was VP of MENA – the Middle Eastern and North African Law Student Association – the sheer existence of which is really meaningful to me. My dad is a Palestinian refugee, and one of the things that I really appreciate about UVA Law is its recognition of Middle Eastern and North African ethnic and cultural identities. For most of my life, those “check the box” ethnicity questionnaires have never included this option, so it was a pleasant surprise to see this on the application to UVA Law and to have a group of colleagues with similar cultural heritage and experiences.

 

How are you making the most of 3L after COVID?

You know, it's kind of a truism around here that UVA Law is the most collegial law school – but as a 1L I really felt this to be true. COVID unfortunately forced us all apart and into our various bubbles and groups of 5 that we were allowed to hang out with. I’m really excited to be back on campus, running into friends in ScoCo and reconnecting, meeting new students, playing tons of softball, and just in general trying to do my part to bring back that culture of collegiality and inclusion. I’m also stoked to be bringing the Law School band tradition back with Torts Illustrated, and really looking forward to our first show!

 

Lightning Round!

Favorite place to eat in Cville? Definitely Alley Light.

What do you do to de-stress? I love tennis, watching and playing (though I’m not very good). Go Roger!

Favorite Movie or TV Show? Right now I’m obsessed with The White Lotus, I’ve already binged it 3 times.

Favorite Professor? Mitchell, highly recommend.

 ---

mak4ch@virginia.edu

Barristers United Match Report: Sept. 19


Jack Brown ‘23
Staff Editor

Under a blistering Sunday sky, Barristers United suited up against Lampo’s Wild Boar Hunt for a titanic clash that ended 4-3, with the Law School coming out on top in a thrilling second game of what is shaping up to be a very exciting season!

 

Thanks to the success of last week, the team started off prioritizing possession in order to tire the short-staffed opponents out and to give its rapid front line the opportunity to receive the ball into space. Moving the ball quickly also minimized the chances for this very energetic team to make hard tackles that most refs would call fouls.The Barristers persevered to end up taking the game with no long-term injuries.

 

Several debutants made their mark this week as it became apparent that the team’s strength is in its numbers. Erin Hwang was able to fill in at the last minute for Tyler Demetriou, who is battling knee soreness, while Jack French, not to be confused with the author, excelled in putting pressure on the opposing defenders throughout the game. Ian Murdoch’s addition to the center back rotation was necessary in the blistering Virgina fall heat, along with Nadia Doherty’s introduction at right wing; she was responsible for numerous chances late in the game.

 

The other stars of the show were the ref and a member of the opposing team who expressed his strong displeasure with the fact that some players on the team were wearing watches. After loudly stating that the team was breaking the rules by having Fitbits on, he stormed off to an unknown location for 10 minutes before coming back into the game. He had already earned the attention of the ref for complaining about the Law School subbing at incorrect times, to which the ref responded by amending the game rules to allow for rapid subs owing to the hot weather. It was a classic Sunday league interaction.

 

The opening goal was courtesy of Sam Gerstemeier, who made his hotly anticipated return to the Sunday league side. After an unfortunate goal, despite the heroic efforts of keeper Aziz Rashidzada, tied the game 1-1, central midfielder Mustapha Yoosuf-Akinlaja continued his hot start to the season with an incredible assist near the half. Receiving the ball at the edge of the 18 yard box, he dribbled cleanly past three dumbfounded defenders before unselfishly passing the ball to the waiting foot of Drew Flanagan, who opened his scoring account with Barristers to give the squad the advantage at the break.

 

At halftime, the team gathered itself and adjusted their tactics to move the ball more quickly out of the midfield and to take turns giving Daniel Choi’s dog, Berkeley, treats whenever they could. The second half was a very physical one as the ref took a very hands off approach to challenges. Yet throughout this adversity, the team remained cool, calm, and collegial as late hits continued to be ignored.

 

Finally the hard fouls caught up to Lampo’s Wild Boar Hunt, who took out the legs of Drew Flanagan who was through on goal. Stepping up to take the PK was Sam Mirzai, who looked unphased by his upcoming moot court semi-final and easily slotted the ball past the keeper.

 

Soon after that, chaos ensued in the box when target man Nathan Sheeley was knocked over by a zealous off-ball tackle, which gave space for captain Day Robins to ice the game with a clinical strike into the bottom right corner. With a super sub in the form of alumnus Zach Turk helping steady the team to close the game out, the result was never in doubt, despite the 4-3 scoreline.

 

Next week, the team is at Charlottesville High School again to face UNU.[1] Only time will tell if this unprecedented run of perfection will continue. Please tune back in every week to catch all the drama as the team continues its journey!

---

jwb4bb@virginia.edu


[1] The Author does not know what this acronym stands for.

Court of Petty Appeals: OGI Applicants v. Law School Classrooms


OGI Applicants v. Law School Classrooms
74 U.Va 5 (2021)

Kulkarni, S. delivered the opinion of the Court.

Today’s case concerns an intentional infliction of emotional distress (IIED) claim by a large number of 2L students. Specifically, they allege that the Law School has harmed them by naming classrooms and hallways after the firms that have rejected them during the OGI process. Although I am sure that there are 3Ls who have similar concerns, their claims were dismissed because they are no longer in the zone of danger.[1] No 1L has dared join this case, for they know that we will dismiss such claims with extreme prejudice.

Background

First, some context. Within the Law School, there are a number of hallways named after alumni.[2] However, there is one specific hallway named after a firm: Hunton Andrews Kurth. Similarly, there are a number of classrooms and seminar rooms named after alumni with others named after firms like King & Spalding or Bradley Arant Boult Cummings.[3] Some of these classrooms named after firms are the most commonly used for mid-size elective classes. This is all without mentioning the vaunted McGuireWoods Corner.[4] Since 2Ls still tend to show up to their classes, and take only electives, they are the students who actually end up in these classrooms the most. Most lockers are either near one of these classrooms or close enough to the sign for the Hunton Hallway. It is clear that these students are within the zone of danger.[5]

Analysis

These 2Ls have used this proximity to the offending signs and classroom labels to bring this claim. They go on to assert that they had to endure a month-long (or more) process known as On Grounds Interviews (OGI), after months of networking, and are now triggered simply by hearing these firm names. Furthermore, they argue, after all that hard work, all they got was a series of automated rejection emails from these firms or worse—no word back at all. Is it any wonder then, they claim, that they are triggered every time they see those signs? This Court, at least those of us with hearts,[6] certainly feel sympathy for these students. It was a stressful time to be going through OGI and it is no wonder that they feel triggered every time they see the names of their alleged tormentors.

A problem arises, however, when these students make too broad a claim. The students who are suing the Law School, in its capacity of operating these classrooms, allege that all of these firm names have caused them harm. They do not provide any proof that they have applied to all of the named firms. Rejections are hard and are cause for relief, but harm to one student is not, in fact, harm to all in such cases. Without a majority of claimants showing that these specific firms have caused them harm, there cannot be an indiscriminate removal of their names from Law School classrooms.

Furthermore, there has to be a balancing of the equities. The Law School alleges that these firms give a lot of money to the school and hire many of our students. Let’s work through this backwards. First of all, the firms that hire many UVA students are in fact good partners. They are upholding their side of the bargain: get marketing, hire students. These firm names cannot be removed as a result of today’s claims. The money given, however, is not an excuse. These firms likely get a tax break from their donations; thus, they get their benefit already. The added marketing bonus from their names on classrooms cannot be applied simply for the money.

Conclusion and Order

These 2Ls have suffered real harm. They are constantly faced by the names of the firms that have hurt them so deeply. But this Court cannot order an indiscriminate removal of firm names from Law School classrooms. Rather, we focus on the argument made by the Law School. These firms get marketing to students based on the idea that they will hire some of those students. Thus, it is fair to penalize the firms that have broken that contract.[7] The firms that did not hire any students from this august Law School hereby lose their privileges to have their names on classrooms, hallways, and corners. Further, upon future such showings of lack of hiring, the Court will order the same for other firms. While we are sympathetic to other, individual claims, those students will simply have to fight through their distress as students from past years have done.

 

Bninski, J., concurring in the judgment.

 

While I write to concur with the outcome reached by my esteemed colleagues, my holding is a more narrow one. I do not take issue with a law firm’s right to reject vast fields of hopeful candidates. That is the nature of the business, and firms are legally free to determine their preferred candidates so long as they avoid practices or criteria which discriminate against individuals based on protected characteristics, or which, while neutral on their face, result in a disparate impact on minority groups.[8] Within that broad liberty, law firms can indulge in caprice. One can even argue, as do appellees in this case, that the firms should be free to constantly remind law students that, while they may enter the firm’s eponymous halls, classroom, foyers, etc., the halls of the firms themselves will remain zealously guarded. This nation does, after all, prioritize liberty of expression.

            The behavior that I would censure lies at the heart of this Court’s jurisdiction: the profoundly petty. To wit, I take issue with firms solely for sending rejection emails that, rather than owning up to their own decision-making process, include weak verbiage claiming that they “are unable”[9] to continue a candidate’s journey through interviewing toward employment “at this time.”[10] Further insult is added by the inclusion of statements that the decision “does not reflect”[11] upon the candidate. Were this the matter before the Court today, I would enjoin firms to make a “short and plain”[12] statement that the candidate is not entitled to employment.  Such a statement might be, “We interviewed you. We decided not to hire you.”

            In the absence of an opportunity to enjoin firms from sending disingenuous emails, I will take petty revenge by joining in this opinion to censure their product placement in this school.

 

Tonseth, C.J., dissenting like I’m Clarence Thomas.

Blatant hypocrisy. I apparently forgot to include a reason in my dissent last week, again concerning an opinion issued by Associate Justice Kulkarni, for why I always disagree with his legal analysis, in that he’s just plain damn wrong sometimes.[13] In appointing members to this Court, I forgot that some 2Ls want a glass of milk after you give them a cookie. You see, the apparent victorious party, to which Justice Kulkarni is a party to,[14] both wants a job with these respective firms that he decries and uses his attendance at the prestigious University that he attends to get his foot in the door.

            While I’m not truly appalled at the lack of legal analysis and aforethought by Justice Kulkarni, his voodoo magic of pulling Justice Bninski to the dark side hurts deeply. Citing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is prescient,[15] but in this Court, “we do what we want.”[16] Ergo, we cite our own precedent that is unmoored from the shackling laws made by an unrepresentative body that is the U.S. Congress. If they can actively skirt the rules and precedent,[17]so can I. I just wish J. Bninski would do the same.

            I need not say J. Kulkarni is soft, but there’s no other real way to describe his generation. The lack of true textual analysis, wanting his cake and wanting to eat it too, all the while decrying the “process”, is enough for me to discard this opinion to the trash heap of history, just like Texas’ independence.

Birch, J., dissenting.

Much like many dissents, my opinion was not asked for, expected, or appreciated by my colleagues when received, but it will be published. My dissent is based solely on one phrase used by my junior colleague on the bench, Justice Kulkarni: "Rejections are hard and are cause for relief." What the Justice does not take into account in coming to this conclusion is the benefits of certain rejections. While I recognize having an offer from a firm is a benefit, expecting offers from every firm is ludacris. I know this can be a shock to many 2Ls, but rejection is a part of life and none of you are perfect. The relationship between firms that will pay to put their name on Law School property and firms that will actively laugh at your weekend plans is one-to-one. Rejections from those firms should not always be met with sorrow or discouragement, but if a single other offer meets your needs then a celebration may be in order. Work-life balance may be attainable in four years instead of retirement!

            The legal industry itself is a Zone of Danger, and any attempts to temper that are met with opinions just like that of our Chief Justice. As a part of the legal industrial complex, the Law School is just playing its part with sponsorships to remind students that had never received a grade below an A- in undergraduate that they have willingly walked into hell. This lawsuit is much like suing a haunted house for scaring you when you paid for a ticket to get scared. 

            I must separately give recognition and credit to the reasoning displayed by my colleague Justice Bninski. While her conclusion in this matter before us comes out wholly twisted by self-interest and personal whim, her wish to enjoin firms' weak communications in the future has my foundational support.

 ---

omk6cg@virginia.edu
amb6ag@virginia.edu
pjt5hm@virginia.edu
sfb9yu@virginia.edu


 

[1] Sorry Professor White, this phrase is all I remember about IIED claims. Luckily this is a made-up court and I don’t have to remember all of the precedent.

[2] This court appreciates the school removing the Withers name from the hall, perhaps removing it from the classroom labels should be expedited.

[3] I think the fact that I remembered the full name without looking it up deserves kudos.

[4] Ten points to any reader who finds this sign, it is hidden well.

[5] I’m definitely not using this phrase correctly.

[6] Everyone except my venerated colleague the Chief Justice.

[7] Look Rip! I paid enough attention in your class to know that breaking a contract is bad.

[8] See Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 in case you need legal reasons not to be racist or sexist.

[9] If they wanted to, they could. They are only “unable” to want to.

[10] There is literally no reason to say this.

[11] While the firm’s need for summer associates must also play a role in the number of offers extended, it strikes this justice as absurd that hiring decisions would not reflect on the candidates who were interviewed. Their credentials and self-presentation are a substantial portion of the data that a potential employer has to work with. Why pretend otherwise?

[12] See Rule 8(a)(2) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which applies here not procedurally but in its general vibe.

[13] Law Students v. Bar Review 74 U.Va 4 (2021), (Tonseth C.J., dissenting).

[14] Conflict of interest much????

[15] TBH, I don’t know what this means, but Justice Thomas always uses big words and nobody really reads the 4th dissent in a case that you’re assigned in ConLaw, so I am surprised if you even got this far.

[16] Law Weekly v. CoPA Copiers 369 U.Va 96 (2019).

[17] See generally, the failed country that is Texas.

Hot Bench: T Rowan Adams '24


T Rowan Adams ‘23

T Rowan Adams ‘24

Interviewed by Phil Tonseth ‘22

Hey Rowan, welcome to the Hot Bench! I’m excited for the Law School to get the chance to know you better. First off, where are you from and where’d you go to undergrad?

I’m from Cincinnati, Ohio. I went to DePauw University (in Indiana), but I spent the past two years before law school in NYC!

 

What made you start thinking about law school, and what drove you to UVA in particular?

I was obsessed with Judge Judy and other crime shows growing up, so law school has kind of always been part of the plan. I chose UVA specifically because of the culture. Every lawyer or law student I talked to throughout the whole application process said how much law school sucked EXCEPT UVA folks. While current students and alums didn’t try to downplay how hard or stressful it was, they also were very enthusiastic about how much fun it can be. That is something unique to UVA, which made the choice to attend here very easy.

 

I know it’s early in your legal career, but do you have an idea of what work you’d like to get into?

I worked the last two years as a paralegal at the Manhattan DA’s Office so currently I am very much interested in prosecution work. Specifically, federal prosecution. Criminal Law is my favorite class so far, so we’ll see how the rest of law school goes! That said, I am also interested in pursuing LGBTQ+ rights work. Very different fields!

 

How’d you get into working with the Manhattan DA’s Office? What was your coolest experience in that office?

I used to want to be a public defender, but then I interned at a public defender’s office in college. I have the utmost respect for public defenders and am still a huge proponent of the work they do and the reasons they do it, I just don’t think it’s necessarily for me. The criminal justice field still interested me, though, and after graduating from DePauw, I knew I was moving to NYC no matter what. I applied at the Manhattan DA’s Office and thankfully got a paralegal position in their Vehicular Crimes Unit.

 

So I wouldn’t classify this as “cool,” but probably the most interesting experience at the office was sitting in the courtroom and watching Harvey Weinstein’s sexual assault trial. I worked in the same hallway as the lead prosecutors on the case so leading up the trial I overheard a lot of the trial preparation. Being able to witness the very publicized trial firsthand was an educational experience I don’t think I’ll ever forget.

 

I’ve heard from the grapevine that you’re the 1L FYC President. What drove you towards that role, and what do you hope to get out of it?

Yes, I am! I have been involved with student government since the 8th grade—it’s something I am naturally very passionate about. I enjoy serving as a liaison between students and the administration, listening to students’ concerns, and advocating for positive change. This year I hope to keep many of the UVA Law traditions alive that may have faltered a bit during the past COVID year. UVA Law is known for our sense of community, so I hope to ensure that we live up to our reputation!

 

Do y’all on FYC have any fun plans for 1Ls for the upcoming year?

SO MANY! We have the standard events planned, such as Foxfield, Halloween Carnival, and, of course, Bar Review every Friday night. But we also hope to host a 1L social sometime in October. Right now we’re thinking about hosting a huge Halloween bash and/or (hopefully and) a Pavilion “around-the-world” night where anyone in Pav that wants to, can open up their apartment for folks. The idea is that 1Ls could hop from apartment to apartment, or “country to country,” and enjoy food and drinks of that respective country. Lots of ideas being thrown around for fun 1L events this semester and next!

 

So I know SBA and FYC is a lot of work, but what other clubs are you involved with so far? 

Yes, I am involved with Lambda Law Alliance. I identify as non-binary so joining a LGBTQ+ student organization at UVA was really important to me. I am excited to work with the organization this year!

 

Lets do a lightning round!

Favorite food? 

Peanut butter. I kid you not, I go through a jar a week.

 

Anti-Stress Hobby? 

Working out! Either lifting weights or playing basketball.

 

Pet peeve?

People who make fun of others in the gym! Let them be!

 

Big headphones in the gym, earbuds, or the dreaded no headphone gym-goer?

AirPods all the way.

 

Favorite word? 

Nefarious.

 

If you could pick one song to play in the background of your life, what would it be? 

Not Afraid by Eminem. A HYPE song.

 

What’s your spirit animal? 

Tiger. Tigers were my undergrad’s mascot and also happen to be my favorite animal.

 

Where’s a place you’ve never been, but would like to go? 

Greece!

 

If you could make one rule that everyone had to follow, what would it be? 

Don’t wear flip-flops with jeans. I’m sorry y’all, I just can’t.

---

vva4qk@virginia.edu

Barristers United Match Report: Week 1


Jack Brown ‘23
Staff Editor

The Barristers opened up their season on a sweltering Sunday morning against Champions FC with a clinical four to zero win, with the squad making an unmistakable statement that their promotion to the SOCA unrestricted 11v11 league was not a fluke. Despite the other team’s greater experience, gender homogeneity, and matching kits, they were no match for the students of UVA Law, who thrashed them for the entire 90 minutes.

The game began very tensely with Barrister’s captain and dog-owner Stephen “anti-shirt” Wald imploring the team to hold possession and use their team’s greater numbers to tire the opposition out. This strategy worked well, as the Barristers were able to minimize Champion FC’s chances through intense pressing in the midfield, along with a sturdy defense anchored by Ardi “enjoying his 3L retirement” Khalafi and Ray “would die for his dog” Roesler, whose new partnership is already one of the best in Barrister’s history.

Right before halftime, the deadlock was broken thanks to a brilliant assist by Nathan “the Juggernaut” Sheeley, who was able to overpower the defender and slide the ball across the goal to Barrister’s mainstay Sam “sprinted literally all 45 minutes” Mirzai, who is in pursuit of the Barristers all-time goal scoring record in his 3L year. Soon after the goal, the visibly annoyed referee signaled for the start of halftime. Sam then had to leave, but the team was strengthened by the halftime introduction of John “was late because he ran a 5k that morning” Lawrence. After a stirring halftime speech, the team entered the second half with confidence.

Three goals followed in quick succession as the team put a dagger in whatever hope Champions FC had. Scoring on their debuts, Mustapha “almost got kicked in the back of the head trying to win the ball” Yoosuf-Akinlaja and Tyler “former Mark Clattenburg of SOCA soccer” Demetriou both were able to capitalize on amazing buildup play to slide the ball past the keeper. Then to cap off the run, John “yes he seriously drove to Richmond to run a 5k the morning of a soccer game” Lawrence scored an early contender for goal of the season, as he blasted a shot over the keeper from the edge of the 18-yard box. 

Aside from the goal scorers, there were many notable performances from new additions to the squad. 1Ls Keith “turn and shoot!” Stone and Jacob “didn’t turn and shoot” Baltzegar energized the squad with their passion. Zachary “was promised and did not receive a starting spot at CAM” Pierce was a dependable outlet the entire game along with Drew “pacy winger” Flanagan, who terrorized the opposing fullbacks with his youthful runs.

All in all, it was a perfect start to what will be a stellar season for Barrister’s United. If you would ever like to play in the weekend league games, or are interested in playing pickup during the week, please email the author who would be happy to add you to the GroupMe. Also, make sure to tune back in next week to keep up with all of the action as the Barristers continue their journey to the illustrious SOCA Championship.

---

jwb4bb@virginia.edu

Tweedledee and Tweedledum: Bojangles v. Raising Canes


Bojangles: Best Chicken in Town

Phil Tonseth ‘23
Editor-in-Chief

Bojangles. It would be easy enough to say that it’s God’s gift to mankind, but the EIC of Law Weekly said this article had to be 400 words at least, so buckle up. Whether it’s their Cajun filet biscuit with eggs and cheese for breakfast, their chicken supreme box with Cajun fries for lunch, the tailgate box for dinner, or bo-berry biscuits for dessert, you won’t be disappointed. Shoot, even if you want to be ‘healthy,’ their green beans and mac-n-cheese also slap.

            Bojangles isn’t as popular as Chick-fil-A because they don’t take generally unpopular political stances,[1] nor as Popeyes because they don’t advertise with years-old TikToks. Bojangles grows their fan base through tried and true taste tests. Located either both Abbey Road and Seminole Trail, there are two locations within Cville to explore their sumptuous flavors.[2] Law students are generally early risers.[3] Bojangles isn’t the only chicken place, but you won’t see old people show up to Raising Canes or Chick-fil-A at 5 a.m. to have a biscuit and coffee, only to sit there for a few hours and chat over the local news of the day. I get it, Shenandoah Joe may have some dope coffee. But do they have biscuits? Probably not, but I cannot confirm as I don’t drink coffee. Conversely, Shenandoah Joe doesn’t have some of the best sweet tea you’ll find south of the Mason-Dixon line. Bojangles does. The combo of Bojangles’ sweet tea and biscuits for breakfast? It might as well be renamed heaven.

bojangles logo.png

            If you haven’t followed my articles so far this year,[4] I play a fair share of golf. Unfortunately, a lot of people look down on consuming alcohol before 10 a.m. I mean, it’s generally illegal and frowned upon to sell liquor before 10 a.m.. Ergo, rolling up to an early morning tee time with a sweet tea is a great intermediary.[5] Say you like a black coffee instead. Your Bojangles equivalent would be just an ordinary biscuit. However, and I cannot recommend this enough, get a gravy biscuit.[6]

            To be completely frank, I haven’t addressed how good Chick-fil-A and Raising Canes are. To be honest, I don’t need to.[7] Bojangles doesn’t have any negatives. Bojangles just slaps. There isn’t a bad meal. There’s a ready supply of quality chicken, dope Cajun fries, and biscuits that would make your grandma self-conscious. Trust me, take a trip there and you’ll enjoy it. Then, come talk to me after and we’ll enjoy some sweet tea over a round of golf.

 

Raising Canes: the Only Choice

Jack Brown ‘23
Staff Editor

Go take a drive down Barracks Road right now and you are guaranteed to see a line of cars stretching dangerously out of the Cane’s parking lot, while Popeyes and KFC lay empty right next door. The good people of Charlottesville have made a decisive choice. 

            Founded in 1996, following a business plan that earned its founder Todd Graves a C minus, the chain has quickly exploded because of the undeniable quality of its chicken and the simplicity of the menu. In a world where we need to make hundreds of choices every day, it is refreshing to be limited to five primary combos, all of which are hearty meals that can brighten any day.

            Canes’ juicy tenders, creamy coleslaw and mouth-watering Texas toast would be incredible options on their own, making Raising Canes a top-tier chicken choice in a saturated market, but the sauce takes the experience beyond anything you could conceive of a priori.[8]

raising canes.png

            I could stay here for years, writing as prolifically and passionately as Samuel Alito did when Bostock v. Clayton County made it so you couldn’t fire someone on account of their sexual orientation, and never be able to fully explain the perfection that is Raising Canes’ signature sauce. No other sauce, not the Chick-fil-A sauce that it was inspired by, nor whatever you get at Bojangles, even comes  close to this meal-perfecting addition.

            What can be said about the other chicken options in this week’s Tweedle? Between Chick-fil-A's unavailability on the Lord’s day, and the distinct lack of value in any Bojangles’s meal,[9] determining this contest’s winner is a self-evident truth. Trust the tastebuds of the Charlottesville townies and choose Raising Canes next time you are hankering for some chicken.

---

pjt5hm@virginia.edu
jwb4bb@virginia.edu


[1] Sorry FedSoc, we all come to your meetings for the substance, not the sandwiches.

[2] And yes, Bo knows.

[3] See 1Ls, not anyone with a choice.

[4] See https://www.lawweekly.org/col/2021/8/17/bde-rises-to-the-top; and https://www.lawweekly.org/col/2021/8/31/complete-and-accurate-ranking-of-local-golf-courses.

[5] Plus, sweet tea and a few airplane bottles mix great together.

[6] TBH, their jelly on a biscuit is also delicious.

[7] Yes, Bojangles’ chicken is crunchy, but at least their chicken has flavor. Sorry not sorry, Canes.

[8] This is a fancy way of saying “before experience”, I will always take any opportunity to flex my philosophy degree

[9] Seriously their tenders are like 5% chicken 95% unsatisfying crunch.

Court of Petty Appeals: Law Students v. Bar Review

Law Students v. Bar Review
74 U.Va 4 (2021)

Kulkarni, S. delivered the opinion of the Court.

Background 

If you look at any article published by the esteemed newspaper the Virginia Law Weekly in the last year, or see any opinion published by this court in the same timeframe, you are likely to find a mention of the event known as Bar Review. Traditionally, students from all three years come together once a week to celebrate another seven-day cycle of challenging classes at a venue decided on by a certain person and hosted by a kind local watering hole. This weekly event was missing from the past year’s social calendar for reasons I am sure we can all appreciate. However, the event’s return was meant to provide a venue for 2Ls to behave like fools in public rather than wait for stories of their stupidity to circulate through the grapevine. It was meant to provide 1Ls with a proper introduction to the law school culture. It was meant to provide 3Ls the opportunity to meet old friends and have their debauchery be socially appropriate once a week.

Unfortunately, the students bringing this case allege that the esteemed host, Crozet Pizza, failed to provide the appropriate venue for all of these ideas at the first Bar Review. These students claim that the live band, lack of access to drink specials, and the greatest of unholy curses (undergrads) so affected their experience as to prevent them from understanding the true nature of Bar Review. As usual, the majority of plaintiffs are from the Class of 2023, who are quickly becoming joint claimants in front of this Court for their issues with every aspect of law school culture that they believe they were denied in the previous year.  Let’s review these individual allegations one at a time.

 

Analysis

First, the live band. The students were given the opportunity to enjoy such premium performance art, but still found reason to complain. The Court is not unsympathetic to the concerns of the law students. The live band took up space that could have been used for dancing, and the music was limited by the setlist. Live performance is a gift and true art. But at times, expediency must take precedent. Crozet Pizza cannot hold two major events at once: live music is an event, a true experience; yet so is Bar Review. They have the option to host either, but they must choose one. It is important to note, however, that the stage space taken up by the DJs on other nights is not too dissimilar from the space that claimants allege is used by the live band. Unfortunately for the law students, this consideration makes this claim null and void.

Next, the lack of access to drink specials. On this, the students bring with them the best evidence. Many of them spent most of the two-hour-long window for drink specials simply waiting in line. Some students allege that upon reaching the front, they were not even given the reduced prices they were promised. This is certainly an affront, but this Court must balance the equities. Crozet only had two main bartenders who were managing the large crowd. Those wonderful people are not to blame for this high-stress situation, where mistakes are inevitable. The blame lies with their business overlord who did not plan ahead for such an occasion. Since the esteemed justices on this Court will one day defend businesses, it is important to take this sacred time on the Court to protect individuals when we can. This claim has merit, and the Court would also refer those unfortunate bartenders to any of the future lawyers at this law school for any help they might need.

Finally, the undergrads. The students allege that this law school event was plagued with the atrocity known as undergraduate students. The Court is appalled. Is Crozet not interested in its own pocketbooks? Allowing such deviants into their event, with the simple phrase “We’re with Bar Review” (that they can easily overhear and use) hurts their own bottom line. There was no space to stand and dance, according to the plaintiffs. The experience was ruined, they allege. On this, the Court completely understands. In allowing this flood of non-law students to enter, the contract of Bar Review hosting was broken. This claim is certainly meritorious and would ordinarily demand relief. For reasons discussed below, however, that relief will not be granted at this time.

 

Conclusion and Order

Crozet did fail in some aspects of hosting Bar Review. Drink specials are what draws law students to the event. Undergrads ruined the experience. With all of that said, this Court will stay its hand. Since the original claim was filed, a second Bar Review occurred at Crozet Pizza. This event was less congested, provided easier access to drink specials, and included fewer undergrads. We will issue only a warning to Crozet and any other future host of Bar Review. Consider wristbands and better preparations for future events—don’t overburden your own bartenders. We will hold ourselves back this time but will grant cert to future claims about inadequate Bar Reviews. In other words, you are on thin ice.

 

 

Tonseth, C.J. nonchalantly dissenting.

 

            It has become due matter of course that when I assign my Associate Justice Kulkarni to write an opinion, I must dissent. This dissent may stem from the fact that I disagree with his analysis, that we believe in alternative facts that are dispositive to the case, that his conclusion is entirely based on substantive due process,[1] or that I just feel like being petty. Today, I am choosing the latter reason for dissenting.

            First, J. Kulkarni makes some argument about venue.[2] Yet, he also supports keeping Bar Review at Crozet. I have major qualms about this decision. I’ve personally become highly preferential to Bilt. Is this because I now finally have a cool party trick where I can walk up to my favorite bartender, raise a hand and the number of fingers I hold up indicates how many Bud Lights I want? You bet. Plus, Bilt is usually less crowded, does a two form of ID check to keep undergrads out,[3]  and has a nice pergola for when unforeseen rain showers pop up.

            Second, J. Kulkarni keeps attempting to give 2Ls additional rights that they haven’t earned.[4] This opinion again reads like a “bit of interpretive jiggery-pokery.”[5] Granted, all of those who attended Bar Review were deprived of their constitutional right to a speedy drink delivery from plentiful bartenders. But, as a wise member of the Class of 2022 suggested in their Groupme, why didn’t we just make 1Ls be bartenders?

            Third, I think J. Kulkarni and his fellow complainants just need to learn to order better. Every time I went to the bar, I simply ordered a six-pack of PBR. It allowed me to stay cheap, share a few with friends, and always have two drinks in hand while I waited in line again. Win, win, win. Work smarter, not harder, kids.

---

omk6cg@virginia.edu
pjt5hm@virginia.edu



[1] Which, once the 1Ls take ConLaw, they’ll also learn is a farce. Just like my perceived power on this Court.

[2] I’m not going to lie, I skimmed the majority opinion while on the golf course, similar to my PR reading for this week.

[3] I watched them snatch 6 fake IDs last week, it was dope

[4] See 2Ls v. 1Ls, 74 U.Va 2 (2021), Tonseth., C.J. vehemently dissenting.

[5] King v. Burwell, 576 U.S. 473, 506 (2015) (Scalia, J. dissenting).

Hot Bench: Katie Delsandro '12


Katie Delsandro ‘12, UVA Law’s new Director of Admissions

Katie Delsandro ‘12, UVA Law’s new Director of Admissions

Interviewed by Jack Brown ‘23

This week is a special hot bench where we were lucky enough to get to know the new Director of Admissions, Katie Delsandro! 

 

Where are you from?

So I was born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, most of my family is from there so that’s where I consider myself rooted and when I was eight we moved to St. Petersburg, Florida, where I lived until I went to undergrad. So I kind of claim both.

 

And where did you go to undergrad?

I went to Wake Forest for undergrad, where I majored in history. After I graduated, I moved to D.C. where I did consultation for a non-profit. Most of my work there was business management and fundraising management. When I graduated I knew I wanted to go work for a non-profit, and that position was a really great way of learning the internal workings of a non-profit without committing to one specific one.

 

How did you go from that to making the decision to go to Law School?

I realized that while the work of the non-profits and the underlying missions were really interesting to me, the actual functioning of a non-profit was less so. I couldn’t see myself working full time in a non-profit. I felt that going to law school would give me the ability to assist in a lot of different mission-driven organizations along with being something that was really intellectually stimulating.

 

And how did you end up choosing UVA?

When I was applying to law school, I remember it being really overwhelming because there were so many options. What sealed it for me with UVA Law, though, was coming to the Admitted Students Open House. I really could feel the collegiality they had advertised. So it was at that open house that I decided to come to Charlottesville.

 

What do you remember most about your Law School experience?

When I think back to my 1L year, I think back to getting close with my 1L section. Section C did everything together, all of our socializing, all of our studying and obviously all of our classes. And then my 1L summer I had an internship at the Department of Justice in their criminal tax division.  

After that I was able to go through OGI and get a job with Paul Hastings in their D.C. office, which really opened up 2L for me. I was able to focus on classes that really interested me and get more involved with Libel, which I ended up being a director for my 3L year. This, along with my roles in SBA and PILA, helped me meet a ton of people in the school — which I'm very grateful for.

 

And what did you do after graduation?

My 2L summer associate experience was really good, so I started at Paul Hastings, where I worked in their employment law group. I got awesome training there, working directly with partners, which helped me build my skill set to get up and running as a lawyer. And I also really started to like the work I was doing in employment law because of the human element that is inherent in employment law. Everything is a personal story, it's really human focused law that really kept me with it.

After being at Paul Hastings for a few years I transitioned to doing employment law work at the Department of Commerce in the Office of General Counsel. Working in the government was rewarding because you really get ownership of your cases, which helped me take my skills to the next level after getting a great base in private practice.  

At that point my husband and I were looking to move to New York for his job, and I started calling around to find work in something that was adjacent to employment law. I settled on higher ed at Columbia because my favorite part of my work at the Department of Commerce were the internal investigations — which was what I would be doing at the University.

I was at Columbia for three years when COVID happened and my family really wanted to look for a change. It was at that point that this job opened up, and since I wanted to stay in higher education, it seemed like a perfect fit. I’d get to use a lot of the skills I had built up over my career along with getting to live in Charlottesville, which is a great bonus!

 

Coming back to UVA, have you reconnected with any professors you had?

Once the new announcement came out that I got the job, several of my 1L professors sent me messages saying welcome back! You’re never sure how things are going to be when you come back, but it's been a very warm welcome. 

Barristers United: Season Recap


Jack Brown ‘23
Staff Editor

There are certain standout teams in the history of sports. Ones whose greatness allows them to transcend their era due to a combination of dominance and swagger. Teams like the 1920s Yankees, the ’96 Bulls, and the Belichick-led Patriots all embarrassed their competition to such an extent that they will never be forgotten. And we can add the 2020-2021 Barristers United Sunday League soccer team to this exclusive club.

            Coming into the spring season, there were questions about the squad’s ability to win the championship. Having failed to even compete in the previous season’s playoffs, due to playoffs falling in the middle of exams, they entered the season expected to fight for a mid table spot while the truly elite teams like FC Beercelona and Kerfuffle FC were the Vegas favorites to meet in the championship game. This prediction would not look good in hindsight.

            With a final goal differential of 52-9, the squad absolutely dominated the entire league to the point other teams questioned our participation. Even with biased refs, sub-par facilities, and LRW briefs, the team could not be stopped.

            Leading the charge were the three 3L captains, Nathan Eagan ’21, Will Pretto ’21 and Zach Turk ’21. Having been club starters since their 1L year, they were a dependable presence in both games and practices throughout the year. All three were major threats going forward, and could drop back to help absorb pressure in the fleeting moments when other teams had momentum on their side. The consistency they provided for the club, along with the passion with which they would played (and in Nathan’s case celebrated) would make the final victory seem inevitable.

            Barristers was not just a three man show; their excellence extended to every other position on the pitch. In net was the indomitable Zane Clark ’21 who, although rarely called upon, still came up in big moments to help the team end with such a lopsided goal differential. When he was unavailable, such as in the championship game, due to an injury, the team could count on Aziz Rashidzada ’23 to step in even when he was fasting for Ramadan.

            Right in front of the team’s underutilized goalkeepers was a back line that would be the envy of any professional club in Europe. While injuries, brunch commitments, and the occasional tactical decision to move a player to striker would prevent the defense from being as consistent as the goalkeeper, there still were plenty of players who the fans knew for their defensive prowess.

            At the heart of the defense was Ardi Khalafi ’22 who enjoyed the challenge of being out of his favored position, striker, to help mentor new defensive signings Jack Brown ’23 and Warren Griffiths ’23. Ardi was joined by Christian Sorensen ’21 who, in his last season with the club, established himself as a reliable defender and occasional winger.

            At right fullback, fans came to expect to see Erin Magoffie ’23 every minute of every week. Due to a lack of girls on the team, she often had to play all eighty minutes. This did not take away from her performance, however, as teams began to avoid attacking down the right side.

            Teams didn’t find the left back position to be any easier, however, thanks to the unique playstyle of current Barristers co-captain Stephen Wald ’22. A former winger, Stephen would often overlap with the midfield and scored a fair number of goals while playing fullback. Even when caught out of position, his high workrate allowed him to track back and help maintain the defensive excellence that teams came to fear from Barristers.

            These efforts were buoyed by a powerful midfield who often embarrassed other teams through their intricate passing sequences and impressive fitness. Boston native and fan of M&M McFlurries Tom Schnoor ’23 was an absolute box-to-box work horse who could be counted on to disrupt whatever meager possession the other team had while fellow stoic 1L John Lawrence ’23 was always able to get the ball out when under pressure.

            Finally, current co-captain Day Robins ’22 could also be seen playing all eighty minutes at the same breakneck pace. Winner of SOCA Sunday League Goal of the Season, thanks to an impressive curling effort from well outside the eighteen yard box, Day, like Erin, showed never a sign of fatigue despite the lack of women substitutes in most games.

            With this midfield behind them, the team’s offense feasted, scoring more than five goals on all but two occasions. Double Hoo Sam Mirzai ’22 was merciless up top, channeling his frustration with cite checks into each game, scoring multiple hat tricks throughout the season. When defenses focused on him, they left space for the deadly winger pair of Dominick Giovanniello ’21  and Kelli Finnegan ’22, who could always be counted on to capitalize on any mistakes the defense made. Finally, former Division 1 soccer player and LRW gunner Doyle Tuvesson ’23 scored at will despite his icy relationship with the Barristers United fan clubs.

            The club was not limited to just these aforementioned names. Countless members of the Law School stepped up when needed to help continue the legacy of excellence the team has long been known for. While last season's run of dominance may be hard to top, leaks from inside the team’s preseason indicate that this new class of 1Ls may be the most talented in generations. Whether or not this ends up being the case remains to be seen, but the future still looks bright for Barristers United.

---

jwb4bb@virginia.edu

Court of Petty Appeals: 3L Roommate v. Lucy the Pupperoni


3L Roommate v. Lucy the Pupperoni
74 U.Va 3 (2021)

Tonseth, J. delivered the opinion of the Court.

Facts

            It all started on a Tuesday evening. The unnamed 3L plaintiff was attempting to locate his bookbag, knowing classes started the following morning. Even though only a notebook and a pencil would be in this bag, the 3L was distraught when he couldn’t find it. Enter Lucy. Lucy is the pupperoni of the 3L’s roommate and a new friend to our plaintiff. As Lucy naturally should, she borrowed the book bag to stuff it with her toys to take on her sojourns across Copeley to get some exercise in. Our 3L plaintiff was not impressed and brought motion to enjoin Lucy from encroaching on his property.[1] As Lucy attempted to represent herself pro se on the guidance of her local counsel, AirBud Esq., this Court will give her an additional benefit of the doubt.[2]

Issue

            In his introductory argument, the 3L attempted to argue that by acquiring the rights to his new bedroom through signing a lease, he assumed a “bundle of sticks,” specifically referencing the right to exclude. Lucy moved to exclude this argument, as any discussion of sticks would cause the Court to adjourn for a brief fetch session. Motion was approved. Further, the Plaintiff attempted to argue that Lucy was trespassing on his property and “quiet space,” and that in signing his lease, the Plaintiff was entitled to a covenant of quiet enjoyment and an implied warranty of habitability over his domain.

Discussion

            The lowly 3L in this case first argued that Lucy repeatedly committed criminal trespass into his bedroom. This trespass did not include solely her presence, but her toys, odor, and occasional slobber on his pillow from when she took a snoozle.

The gall of this Plaintiff to make these claims rivals that of a gunner thinking their elaborate hypotheticals make sense; there’s no foundation in reality in either. Even though this Court’s knowledge of property is limited, having taken it during the pass/fail semester, the right to exclude is not absolute. See , e.g. Fed Soc v. Libertarians 64 U.Va 17 (2011) (“The requirement to profess an undying love to originalism is not a valid password for entry into public meetings”); Tenured Faculty v. Adjuncts 67 U.Va 4 (2014) (“Just because Regina George said ‘you can’t sit with us,’ doesn’t mean tenured faculty can say the same thing in the faculty dining room”); and Gunners v. Med Students, et. al, 69 U.Va 23 (2016) (holding that “‘technically’ Med and Darden students pay tuition to the University too, and thus can use the far superior law library within reason.”) Therefore, the Plaintiff’s trespass claims are ill-formed, lack any substantive merit, and are dismissed more easily than the unnamed plaintiff trying to chat with a cute girl at Bar Review.

            The Plaintiff then turned his claims to his case in chief, arguing that Lucy, her presence, and her smell violated his basic tenant’s rights. Based on the outline I borrowed from VLR’s outline bank,[3] the covenant of quiet enjoyment is implied into every lease whereby the tenants shall have the right of possession, occupancy, and beneficial use of every portion of the leased premises. As there is no claim that possession or occupancy was denied by Lucy’s presence in this case, the Court turns towards whether there is beneficial use of the property, or whether that has been hindered by Lucy. What the Plaintiff forgets in making his claims against Lucy is that the Plaintiff receives additional benefits, beyond those listed in his lease, by merely interacting with Lucy on a daily basis. Perhaps Lucy is guilty of sneaking away with a slice of bacon from the Plaintiff’s breakfast or barking at an errant squirrel in the middle of the Plaintiff attempting to read for PR, but these cons are far outweighed. Lucy also provides a wonderful excuse to go outside, a loyal friend to sit and watch TV with, a chick magnet,[4] and an always available cuddler for those hard days. Additionally, this Court moves to strike ‘quiet’ from this covenant, as borks and sloppy kisses from Lucy are far better ways to enjoy her presence in the lease.

            In a last ditch effort, the Plaintiff argued that Lucy’s presence, even though it was known to the Plaintiff before the lease was signed, is a ‘patent defect in the essential facilities of the dwelling.’[5] Although the implied warranty of habitability cannot be waived, the Plaintiff must allow for reasonable time for correction before seeking a remedy. Even if this Court were sympathetic to the claims against Lucy (which is an egregious thought, the presence of a woofer is in no way a defect), the Plaintiff’s claim fails procedurally for the remedy sought. By only moving in three weeks ago and already attempting to enjoin Lucy’s presence, without potentially luring her into another room, setting up a kiddie door in the Plaintiff’s doorway first, or simply learning to love dogs, the Plaintiff has rushed to a conclusion that is not proper. Therefore, the Plaintiff strikes out, just like he does in softball, embarrassingly.

Conclusion

            It is clear to this Court that the 3L is wrong in multiple respects. 1) Doggos are to be treasured, not sued. 2) This 3L needs help, as the Court is unsure if they have the proper temperament to pass Character and Fitness. 3) The only thing Lucy could be guilty of is adversely possessing our hearts.

---

pjt5hm@virginia.edu



[1] Plaintiff specifically shouted “Get out of my swamp” when Lucy last tried to enter his bedroom.

[2] All facts are viewed in the light most favorable to Lucy, as she’s a very good girl.

[3] It pays to have smart friends, folks.

[4] Knowing the Plaintiff personally, the Plaintiff would need a few Lucy’s to help him out.

[5] I have no idea what this means, but it appeared in my borrowed outline and got an A.

Hot Bench: Rebecca Hawes Owen and Tim Breeden


Rebecca Hawes Owen and Tim Breeden of UVA Law Library

Rebecca Hawes Owen and Tim Breeden of UVA Law Library

You may know Rebecca Hawes Owen and Tim Breeden from the Arthur J. Morris Law Library, where they can be found at the circulation desk, addressing the myriad concerns of students, staff, and faculty. They were kind enough to take a break for a chat with the Law Weekly; the conversation has been edited for clarity.

 

I’m here with Tim and Rebecca. Hi! Where are you from?

Tim: From Waynesboro just across the mountain!

 

Rebecca, you live in Waynesboro too?

Rebecca: I do live in Waynesboro! Though I’m from Augusta County, originally.

 

Is Waynesboro a hotbed of librarians?

Tim: It is! We’re there, after all.

 

So how did you guys get into this field?

Rebecca: Sure, I'll start! So, sort of accidentally. I worked in a high school before I started here, and I found that I liked helping people get access to information. So I was looking for a job after I finished at the high school, and ended up here at the library.

 

Would you say that law students are more or less needy than high school students?

Rebecca: I’d say they're about the same amount of needy as high school students. But in the best way! I like helping people find what they need.

 

That's very diplomatic. So, Tim, you said that you had a winding path to the library. I would love to hear more about that.

Tim: Well, there are so many stops along the way that I don't want to bore you with all the gory details! But basically, I had summer jobs in the public library back in Waynesboro as a high school or college student and really enjoyed it, but had no idea or intention of making library my life's work. But the twists and turns of life! I was a communications major in college and had other ideas for myself, but again those twists and turns … it just so happened that I was playing softball with a team of library people – a co-rec softball team here at UVA. I was looking for something different and started chatting, and next thing you know they had my application and looked at it and said, ‘We think you'd be a good fit! Would you be interested?’ And I was like, ‘Well, I'll give it a shot!’ I was over at the Health Sciences library and after 10 years there made the jump over here, and I've been here now for fifteen years.

 

Wow, yeah! Was there anything that surprised you about being in the Law Library compared to the Health Sciences library once you got here?

Tim: Oh gosh, yeah! I should be diplomatic here…

 

Please don’t!

Tim: I should be, but I'm not! You know there is – and probably law students are aware of this – there is this cliche or whatever about law students being very competitive. Cutthroat and every man for himself.  And supposedly, with the scientific field it's more of a big old team environment. And what I found was just the opposite: that there was a lot more competitiveness and so forth going on over there than over here. What I have found is that students are very appreciative of all the work that the library does, or services we provide, and that students really are collaborative and really help each other out. Just the exact opposite of what I had heard or expected, which is amazing!

 

That's fantastic! Rebecca, do you think there are any library resources that are underutilized, that you would love people to know more about?

Rebecca: Surely!

Tim: Inter-library loan! It doesn't seem like that service gets used as much as one might expect.

Rebecca: Yes! Students are able to check out books from the UVA libraries, but if we don’t have it, we will search – basically in libraries all over the world –  for books that students might need. So we do that, and I think also we in circulation and the reference librarians upstairs are a great resource. But not everyone stops by to talk to us, so people don't know that.

 

They’re missing out!

Tim: And literally no question is too small or too big. I mean, again, you might come to the desk with a question we can't answer. So we're going to help you find the person who can answer!  It could be about anything. So yeah, the people.

 

That's very cool! Any other library thoughts?

Rebecca: We're having library tours on Wednesday and Thursday at 10:00 AM and 2:00 PM. 

Tim: Just drop in, very very casual. They're not formal tours, but again we wanted to point out some things that we thought maybe people were either under-utilizing or just weren’t aware that we have or did.  So we thought we would throw those out there!

 

Very nice! A casual library tour, business attire not required?

Tim: That’s right!

 

Just encouraged.

Tim: Think of it as a minor OGI.

 

So we can all brace ourselves to be rejected by books in addition to law firms?

Tim: By books and scowling librarians!

 

Do either of you have pets?

Rebecca:  Yes, I have a black cat named Roosevelt. He is cute and really stupid.

Tim: I am currently pet-less. My last dog passed away a number of years ago and I haven't quite pulled myself together enough. He was a border collie and was amazing, my best buddy. So I will eventually get there but not yet.

 

When you're ready to love again?

Tim: Exactly.

 

Do you have any recommendations for people who are hungry in Charlottesville? If there is one food you were going to direct people to, what would it be? Or should we live on books alone?

Rebecca: Hah, no! I mean, Bodos is always my go-to, but Take It Away on the Corner is my second favorite sandwich place after Bodos.

Tim: I don't know if I have a favorite, preferred place, because I can and will eat just about anything. But certainly you can't go wrong with any of the donut places. 

What's Up Fellow Lawhoos?


Phil Tonseth ‘22
Editor-in-Chief

My Fellow Lawhoos,

 

Welcome (or welcome back)! The Law Weekly and its writers are very excited to have everyone back on campus and a somewhat return to normalcy around North Grounds. To set the stage, for 1Ls and LLMs who may not know who we are (or 2Ls and 3Ls who haven’t been in the Law School in awhile), the Law Weekly covers everything that makes this school tick. Whether it be serious matters such as registering for classes or the stances of the candidates running for SBA office, or fun things like reviews of the best local wineries and breweries, the Law Weekly is here to cover it all. Our goal is to tell the story of the law school through various students’ eyes, covering a wide range of interests and ensuring any voice that would like to be heard, will be.

 

To all of those with an opinion that they’d like to share, I welcome you to stop by a meeting of the Law Weekly and see what it’s all about. We meet every Monday in SL279[1] at 5:30. This is where we plan our next edition, edit pieces that writers have submitted, and gossip/chat about what’s going on around the school. Plus, and I cannot stress this enough, we have free Domino’s pizza every week. While it’s not Ivy Provisions or Chipotle, free is free and we’re all trying to ball on a budget with our loans. Even better, the Law Weekly has been confused by employers for being either VLR or a scholarly journal,[2] so your resume will benefit regardless.

 

Even if you don’t think journalism is your thing, I encourage you to get involved in the school. This could be sending me funny quotes that your professors say that we can run in the next edition,[3] joining some of the amazing organizations and clubs we have throughout the school, or just hanging out with your friends in ScoCo to make memories you won’t soon forget. UVA Law is more than just a stellar institution to learn at, it’s really a family that we can all learn and grow together with. I urge you all to not focus so much on making Law Review, beating “the curve,” or starting to outline before fall break, because you’re in the good ole days now and need to take advantage of them!

 

If I haven’t already sold you to either join our staff or another not-as-cool organization, I have to brag on my staff and the Law Weekly’s resume some more. The Law Weekly was named the best law school newspaper for three years in a row recently by the American Bar Association. You wouldn’t just be joining one of the coolest clubs in the school, but also a nationally recognized one at that. We aim to keep our semi-satirical weekly dopamine dump going for the long haul, and it’s contributions by y’all that keep us going.

 

No matter what, we wish all of our readers a debaucherous but enlightening year. Remember, Latin phrases are overrated, don’t live in the library, and always take up the opportunity to go play softball instead of reading for class. The Law Weekly hopes to cover all of these events and more this year, and we hope you enjoy reading about them in our paper along the way!

---

pjt5hm@virginia.edu



[1] Right above the bookstore.

[2] Probably because the Supreme Court has cited us, but NBD. See., Patterson v. New York, 432 U.S. 197 (1977).

[3] Email me! editor@lawweekly.org

Court of Petty Appeals: 2Ls v. 1Ls


2Ls v. 1Ls
74 U.Va 2 (2021)

J. Peterson delivered the opinion of the Court.

            Today, the court is faced with a question of both fairness and justice. Specifically, the court is asked to assess whether a class of individuals, the 2Ls, are owed anything by another class, the current 1Ls, as penance for the joyous orientation activities that were torn away from the class of 2023 by the cold and ruthless hands of a global pandemic.

            It is abundantly clear to the Court that the current 1Ls, a hearty and youthful bunch, are not at fault in this matter. They had no hand in the pandemic; nor are any current members of the class a part of the Law School’s faculty.[1] However, this does not mean that nothing is owed to the victims of these tragic circumstances, who only ask to be made whole. It is a simple equitable request these 2Ls bring: respect, adoration, and recognition. And while the Court is prepared to grant that request today, it seems appropriate to make additions.

            The 2Ls cite history itself as their argument. They received no luncheons. They received no guided tours. They received only bleary eyes and heavy hearts at the hands of hours of Zoom-conducted info sessions and speakers. Hell, to be honest, the 2Ls don’t even remember orientation: most spent the day folding laundry or sleeping.[2] Yet now they must watch, their FOMO rising, as their less-experienced compatriots receive the one thing that truly pulled us all to this school: free stuff. While they acknowledge that the 1Ls are not responsible for this injustice, they allege that this does nothing to remedy the pain they feel.

            The 1Ls, buoyed by a compelling amicus brief from the 3Ls, claim they had no part in this. They claim that all of us, students and faculty alike, have suffered, and continue to suffer, since March of 2020. And while they are not wrong, this argument misses the mark. It does so for one very simple reason; I am a member of the 2L class, and I want mine. And we 2Ls are nothing if not vengeful and drama-filled future mentors.

            The 3Ls argument has some merit however, if only because I know them and have an interest in being invited to their homes.[3] They point to their own situation as abundantly worse than either class, having gotten a taste of the heavenly setting that UVA Law truly is, only to experience a fall from grace proportional to Adam and Eve being torn from the Garden of Eden. They claim that ignorance is bliss, and there is no class more ignorant than the 2Ls, and yes, they are right. However, again, this argument ultimately does not serve them. I too am an ignorant 2L, and I too refuse to sympathize, let alone empathize, with those above and below me. Unfortunately for the lot of you, you’ve encountered the wrong judge.

            As such, it is an easy ruling for the Court today. The 2Ls prevail; history is apparent.[4] And history demands compensation. The faculty, protected by sovereign immunity, is unreachable as a party, despite being considerably more solvent than most others here. The 3Ls are scary[5] and I want invites. The 1Ls, however, have yet to build any clout. And while I love them, like a 23-year-old father loves his much older and more experienced daughters and sons, sometimes fathers must come down on their children with the swift and righteous hand of the law.

            The Court unequivocally orders that the 1L class appreciate what they have been given this year. The gift is invaluable: the opportunity to have three beautiful and (hopefully) untainted years of Law School that will be some of the best years of their lives. As such, the 1Ls must play softball. They must not sit in the gunner pit. They must drink and be merry. And most of all, they must be chill. This, truly, is what the 2L class requests: the chance to be the 2Ls we all want to be for the bright new faces at our school. Any test brings the same conclusion, be it balancing or bright line: the 2Ls ask for little and hope for much, and if all goes well, all will be well.

            And, finally, the Court recommends that all understand that the situation the 3Ls and 2Ls were forced to face has not yet concluded. Have fun but be safe. If you’re feeling sick, don’t mess around. Make use of testing. The last thing any of us want is to return to last year.

 

 

 

Tonseth, C.J., vehemently dissents.

            “I do not join the Court’s opinion because I am not sure what it means.”[6] In assigning Justice Peterson to write this opinion, I hoped he would properly administer justice in accordance with the Court of Petty Appeal’s Constitution. Mirroring the all too familiar feeling of looking at my credit card statement after a good Bar Review, I have been bamboozled and will not stand for this.

            Before I begin my diatribe, Justice Peterson deserves some credit. Although he did not outright say it, the implication that 1Ls always lose continues to be the bedrock of this esteemed Court.[7] Where the Majority errs is both in relying on substantive due process to grant 2L rights which they do not inherently possess, all the while undermining the amicus brief and respect that 3Ls deserve. This travesty of justice and “bit of interpretive jiggery-pokery”[8] must not extend beyond this opinion.

            From my perch in my ivory tower, I sleep easy at night knowing that I administer justice in the only proper way, strict textualism.[9] The majority, through an analysis that rivals the confusion and complication of a Justice Breyer opinion, attempts to both cede rights to 1Ls and 2Ls without pointing to their origin. The majority opinion should’ve been issued per curiam, as “emotional distress is a harm within the risk of attending school.”[10] Thus, neither party should win and the case should’ve been dismissed for a lack of standing. However, my colleagues in the majority countered with the first Petty Rule of Civil Procedure, “we do what we want,”[11] and thus I must further denigrate their actual argument.

            It seems as though my reign of terror from atop my ivory tower has failed in inspiring my colleagues to reach the correct conclusion in this case. Justice Peterson, in attempting to give his own classmates rights which they do not deserve and benefits they do not need, fails to forget how easy and relaxed his own 1L year was. The class of 2023 “... already got an easier journal tryout, the ability to attend class from the comfort of their bedrooms, and to avoid all of the embarrassing stories that would result from one bad night at Bar Review.”[12] I cannot see any reason why additional rights or privileges should be laid at the class of 2023’s feet, especially in violation of stare decisis.

            Justice Peterson tried to assuage his utter grafting of our Constitution by attempting to befriend the 3Ls with offers of friendship and party favors. This is laughable. I’m not one to spill the tea, but the recent social gathering hosted by 2Ls, which was an attempt to have 2Ls and 3Ls make up for lost time in meeting each other, was only advertised to a tiny cohort of 3Ls. Justice Peterson may disclaim responsibility for this oversight, but actions speak louder than words.

            Due to the fact that I pushed off writing my dissent until the moment it was due, in true 3LOL fashion, I will cede the floor to the principal from Billy Madison in describing my thoughts on the majority's opinion... “(Justice Peterson), what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this (school) is now dumber for having (read this opinion). I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

---

jtp4bw@virginia.edu
pjt4hm@virginia.edu 


[1] If any of you are and had a hand in this, best to keep that quiet. You will find you have many enemies at the law school quite quickly.

[2] I sincerely do not remember orientation.

[3] And firms.

[4] Let’s not get into a philosophical debate about this one.

[5] They aren’t, and I love them. You decide whether I’m brown-nosing for invites or being sincere for yourself.

[6] Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477 (1981) (Powell, J. concurring).

[7] 1L Gunners v. Everyone Else, 324 U.Va 22 (2019).

[8] King v. Burwell, 576 U.S. 473, 506 (2015) (Scalia, J. dissenting).

[9] Students v. Labor, Generally, 73 U.Va 4 (2020) (Tonseth, J., dissenting); see also John Does v. Open Bathroom Doors 73 U.Va 2 (2020) (Tonseth, J. dissenting).

[10] See., 1L Gunners v. Everyone Else at 24 (2019).

[11] Law Weekly v. CoPA Copiers, 369 U.Va 96 (2019).

[12] 1Ls v. God, 73 U.Va 16 (2021)